Predecessors shift by 1 when export to Excel

Rows are numbered starting at 1 in the actual smartsheet view, and when it exports to Excel row number 1 is now the header, which causes the predecessor references to be wrong.

I wonder if the fix to this would be to have an actual Row ID column in smartsheet in addition to the row reference? Another option is to prompt in the export menu with a disclaimer that it might not allow for re-import if you shift things.

我attached 2 screenshots showing both the Smartsheet file, and the Excel exported file. The template I used for this sheet is "Project"

Predecessor Test - Excel Export Screenshot.PNG

Predecessor Test - Smartsheet Screenshot.PNG

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  • Gwyneth C
    Gwyneth C ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited 05/22/18

    Hello!

    Here's a quick explanation of what's going on and a potential workaround so that you can get the exported data to show what you want in Excel.

    In Smartsheet, thePredecessorscolumn keeps track of therelationshipsbetween related tasks. When you export the sheet data to Excel, the number in the column (not the relationship it represents) is what is retained.

    这是一个想法如何得到更好的代表resentation in Excel for how the tasks are related: in Smartsheet, before you export the data, add a new column to the sheet and create a simple formula to show the task name (rather than the row number) for each predecessor.

    Here’s the basic process for how you’d do that:

    1. Right-click the predecessors column in Smartsheet and clickInsert Column Left.
    2. Type a name for the column (“Predecessor Task Name” for example).
    3. In the new column, for Task 2, press = and then click the task name for the predecessor task.



    Repeat this for each task that has a predecessor.

    When you export the sheet, you’ll then have an accurate record of the predecessor task by its name.

    Hopefully this will get you closer to the result you're looking for in Excel. Maybe others here in the community have other ideas...

    Thanks!

    Gwyneth

  • What is the syntax if you have more than one predecessor?

    Thanks,

    Theresa

  • Corinne Flanagan
    Corinne Flanagan Employee
    edited 09/19/18

    Hello Theresa!

    I added Tasks 4 and 5 with Tasks 3 and 4 acting as predecessors to Task 5. I used the syntax =[Task Name]3 + " " + [Task Name]4 to populate both predecessors for Task 5 in the Predecessor Task Name column.

    Examples of how this would look:

    Thanks!

    Corinne

  • Thanks so much! I'll give it a try.

  • AaronO
    AaronO ✭✭

    Bumping this as it bit me today. I fully understand that the "export to excel" is simply saving the numbers in the predecessors column, but what's the purpose of that? I can't really use it for anything - in my case, I want to process the exported file to perform some calculations, so I have to change the predecessor numbers.

    It would be more useful for smartsheet to shift them on the way out, since you know that they're going to be off by one. That way the file would actually contain the plan - as is, it contains a list of tasks and incorrect relationships between them.

    I see the suggestion to export the names of tasks as a special predecessors column - but if the project plan is large, this would be impractical.

    thanks!

    Aaron

Ok, how about using a helper column with a 0 or 1 being input by your automation, and then use this as the trigger. So set the default on the column to 0, and if an attachment is there, leave it at 0. Then if an attachment is not there workflow will set it to 1, and that would trigger the automated workflow to run.<\/p>"}]}},"status":{"statusID":3,"name":"Accepted","state":"closed","recordType":"discussion","recordSubType":"question"},"bookmarked":false,"unread":false,"category":{"categoryID":321,"name":"Smartsheet Basics","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/smartsheet-basics%2B","allowedDiscussionTypes":[]},"reactions":[{"tagID":3,"urlcode":"Promote","name":"Promote","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":5,"count":0},{"tagID":5,"urlcode":"Insightful","name":"Insightful","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":11,"urlcode":"Up","name":"Vote Up","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":13,"urlcode":"Awesome","name":"Awesome","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0}],"tags":[{"tagID":334,"urlcode":"automations","name":"Automations"}]},{"discussionID":108286,"type":"question","name":"Configuring Predecessors in forward scheduling vs backward scheduling","excerpt":"I have a user who wants to schedule some projects in a forward-looking manner (top to bottom) and schedule other projects in a backward-looking manner (bottom to top). To explain to her how Predecessors would need to be configured in either scenario, I created the little example shown below. In the FORWARD section, the…","snippet":"I have a user who wants to schedule some projects in a forward-looking manner (top to bottom) and schedule other projects in a backward-looking manner (bottom to top). To explain…","categoryID":321,"dateInserted":"2023-07-29T00:11:14+00:00","dateUpdated":null,"dateLastComment":"2023-07-31T14:48:51+00:00","insertUserID":163593,"insertUser":{"userID":163593,"name":"George Speier","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/George%20Speier","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-07-31T22:00:20+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭"},"updateUserID":null,"lastUserID":163593,"lastUser":{"userID":163593,"name":"George Speier","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/George%20Speier","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-07-31T22:00:20+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭"},"pinned":false,"pinLocation":null,"closed":false,"sink":false,"countComments":2,"countViews":38,"score":null,"hot":3381405605,"url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108286\/configuring-predecessors-in-forward-scheduling-vs-backward-scheduling","canonicalUrl":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108286\/configuring-predecessors-in-forward-scheduling-vs-backward-scheduling","format":"Rich","lastPost":{"discussionID":108286,"commentID":388026,"name":"Re: Configuring Predecessors in forward scheduling vs backward scheduling","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/comment\/388026#Comment_388026","dateInserted":"2023-07-31T14:48:51+00:00","insertUserID":163593,"insertUser":{"userID":163593,"name":"George Speier","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/George%20Speier","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-07-31T22:00:20+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭"}},"breadcrumbs":[{"name":"Home","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/"},{"name":"Get Help","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/get-help"},{"name":"Smartsheet Basics","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/smartsheet-basics%2B"}],"groupID":null,"statusID":3,"image":{"url":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/4M6FSYYJUAME\/predecessors2.png","urlSrcSet":{"10":"","300":"","800":"","1200":"","1600":""},"alt":"predecessors2.png"},"attributes":{"question":{"status":"accepted","dateAccepted":"2023-07-31T14:47:57+00:00","dateAnswered":"2023-07-29T20:17:17+00:00","acceptedAnswers":[{"commentID":387957,"body":"

This has to do with how a milestone is represented (ie. a 0 day duration). If you hard type milestone without a predecessor or successor, it will show up as the beginning of that day instead of the end of the day. If you have a milestone that is following a standard finish to start logic, it will show up at the end of the previous activity. <\/p>

So, Task B4 in the backwards version is actually saying that the completion happened in the 00:00 hr of that day. if you put any activity in that has a duration and uses the start to finish relationship, that activity will naturally finish at the end of the previous day. So, to get your example above to work, the finishing task would need to be 1 day long so it takes up the full work day. I found it easier to visualize if you zoom all the way in on the gantt chart so you can see the diamond symbol of the milestone at the beginning and end of the days when used in different set ups.<\/p>"}]}},"status":{"statusID":3,"name":"Accepted","state":"closed","recordType":"discussion","recordSubType":"question"},"bookmarked":false,"unread":false,"category":{"categoryID":321,"name":"Smartsheet Basics","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/smartsheet-basics%2B","allowedDiscussionTypes":[]},"reactions":[{"tagID":3,"urlcode":"Promote","name":"Promote","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":5,"count":0},{"tagID":5,"urlcode":"Insightful","name":"Insightful","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":11,"urlcode":"Up","name":"Vote Up","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":13,"urlcode":"Awesome","name":"Awesome","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0}],"tags":[]},{"discussionID":108291,"type":"question","name":"Conditional formatting in Gantt not working with dependencies","excerpt":"For some reason it seems like my conditional formatting rules aren't being applied to certain rows in the Gantt chart side of this sheet. The problem is resolved if I disable dependencies, but I need those and don't understand why this should matter since I don't have any rules related to status or % complete in the…","snippet":"For some reason it seems like my conditional formatting rules aren't being applied to certain rows in the Gantt chart side of this sheet. The problem is resolved if I disable…","categoryID":321,"dateInserted":"2023-07-29T22:50:55+00:00","dateUpdated":null,"dateLastComment":"2023-07-30T15:38:08+00:00","insertUserID":164323,"insertUser":{"userID":164323,"name":"smbailey","title":"Senior Business Systems Analyst","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/smbailey","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-07-30T15:36:49+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭"},"updateUserID":null,"lastUserID":164323,"lastUser":{"userID":164323,"name":"smbailey","title":"Senior Business Systems Analyst","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/smbailey","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-07-30T15:36:49+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭"},"pinned":false,"pinLocation":null,"closed":false,"sink":false,"countComments":3,"countViews":30,"score":null,"hot":3381404343,"url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108291\/conditional-formatting-in-gantt-not-working-with-dependencies","canonicalUrl":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108291\/conditional-formatting-in-gantt-not-working-with-dependencies","format":"Rich","tagIDs":[219,319,437,439],"lastPost":{"discussionID":108291,"commentID":387971,"name":"Re: Conditional formatting in Gantt not working with dependencies","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/comment\/387971#Comment_387971","dateInserted":"2023-07-30T15:38:08+00:00","insertUserID":164323,"insertUser":{"userID":164323,"name":"smbailey","title":"Senior Business Systems Analyst","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/smbailey","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-07-30T15:36:49+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭"}},"breadcrumbs":[{"name":"Home","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/"},{"name":"Get Help","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/get-help"},{"name":"Smartsheet Basics","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/smartsheet-basics%2B"}],"groupID":null,"statusID":3,"image":{"url":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/4N6Y1NCLVR43\/2023-07-29-15-46-58-281-29-moving-plan-smartsheet-com.png","urlSrcSet":{"10":"","300":"","800":"","1200":"","1600":""},"alt":"2023-07-29 15_46_58-(1) Moving plan - Smartsheet.com.png"},"attributes":{"question":{"status":"accepted","dateAccepted":"2023-07-30T15:39:24+00:00","dateAnswered":"2023-07-30T09:21:36+00:00","acceptedAnswers":[{"commentID":387967,"body":"

Hi @smbailey<\/a> <\/p>

I hope you're well and safe!<\/p>

I can't see any rows in your screenshot that should be colored differently. Parent rows can't be changed.<\/p>

Can you share more screenshots with the conditional formatting options used on a few child rows?<\/strong> (Delete\/replace any confidential\/sensitive information before sharing) That would make it easier to help. <\/p>

I hope that helps!<\/p>

Be safe, and have a fantastic weekend!<\/p>

Best,<\/p>

Andrée Starå<\/strong><\/a> | Workflow Consultant \/ CEO @ WORK BOLD<\/strong><\/a><\/p>

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