The link out arrows have disappeared?!

I have two SmartSheets in use. One for my engineering team, and one for my construction team. I have hundreds of cells linking in and out of both sheets to one another. For some reason the cells which are sending the data (Linked Out) are not showing the little black/grey arrow within the cell, but the cells which are receiving the data (Linking In) do have the little blue arrows.

表之间的数据仍在涌动,但I really like having the black/grey arrows so to my teams eyes it's very easy to know what data is automated so they don't try and edit the cell.

Is anyone else having this problem?

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  • Genevieve P.
    Genevieve P. Employee Admin
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    Hi all,

    (@Lauren_Lit_21,@jmyzk_cloudsmart_jp,@Paola,@LHanson11)

    Please see the recent announcement post around Outbound Cell Links:

    On August 7th, 2022 we reduced the number of outbound cell link indicators a user can see on a sheet from 100,000 to 1,000. <\/p>

    This change turned off the visual indicators (triangle in the bottom right corner of a cell). There is no functional impact to your sheets except for the removal of the visual indicator (triangle). The cell links still exist and changing the value in the cell will continue to propagate data to other sheets. <\/p>

    We made this change to improve the product performance. We are working on a solution to revert back to more than 1,000 outbound link indicators as soon as possible.<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"On August 7th, 2022 we reduced the number of outbound cell link indicators a user can see on a sheet from 100,000 to 1,000. \\nThis change turned off the visual indicators (triangle in the bottom right corner of a cell). There is no functional impact to your sheets except for the removal of the visual indicator (triangle). The cell links still exist and changing the value in the cell will continue to propagate data to other sheets. \\nWe made this change to improve the product performance. We are working on a solution to revert back to more than 1,000 outbound link indicators as soon as possible.\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-09-09T13:25:32+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":139926,"name":"Adam Lang","title":"","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/Adam%20Lang","photoUrl":"https:\/\/aws.smartsheet.com\/storageProxy\/image\/images\/u!1!XOdtH8J2BjM!7CFtu6J2S-M!8DXad3YjSVy","dateLastActive":"2023-07-05T18:15:59+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"Employee"},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":true,"showPostLink":true,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/95211\/update-on-outbound-cell-link-indicators","embedType":"quote","name":"Update on Outbound Cell Link Indicators"}"> https://community.smartsheet.com/discussion/95211/update-on-outbound-cell-link-indicators

    Thanks,

    Genevieve

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  • jmyzk_cloudsmart_jp
    jmyzk_cloudsmart_jp ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a customer who asked about the same phenomenon. She said the gray arrow mark for the outbound link in the source cell is hidden.

    I have not been able to reproduce this phenomenon myself.

  • +1 on this issue. I am also having issues with outbound arrows not showing as well as cell reference arrows. It's difficult to know were my references are going. It is really odd because my sheets are not considered "large".

  • jmyzk_cloudsmart_jp
    jmyzk_cloudsmart_jp ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did some experiments for my customer and found that Smartsheet seems to have limits of outbound link information a sheet keeps, namely 1000. This limit also applies to the grey cell link-out arrows.

    This limit does not mean outbound links more than 1000 do not work.

    I do not know if this is a bug or if Smartsheet can lift this limit. But, for the time being, I will advise my customer to limit the number of outbound cell links to 1000 if the customer needs to access all the grey cell link arrows.

    FYI, there was a mention of an outbound cell limit of 25 million in the past. I think the cell links themselves of that much could still be valid though the source sheet does not have outbound cell link information exceeding 1000 as far as I experimented.

    Outbound Cell Limit? — Smartsheet Community


    The experiments:

    Create a source sheet and target sheets

    1. Source sheet with 500 rows containing text/number column and date column.
    2. Create three target sheets with the same structure.

    Create cell linking and check the cell link arrows.

    1. Create 500 text/number cell links from the source sheet to target sheet No.1
    2. Create 500 text/number cell links from the source sheet to target sheet No.2
    3. Result: Up to this point, namely the 1000 links, the source sheet has 1000 cell link out arrows, having two cell link out arrows for each 500 text/number cells.
    4. Create 500 text/number cell links from the source sheet to target sheet No.3
    5. Result: The source sheet does not have cell link arrows for the third target sheet. (the first image.)
    6. Create 500 dates cell links from the source sheet to target sheet No.1
    7. Result: The source sheet does not show cell link arrows in the second date column for target Sheet No.1.
    8. Still, the cell links themselves are working. (the second image.)
    CellLinkOutDiaplay1000Limit.png
    cellLinkOver1000NowShownAtSourceStillWorks.png

    Use Smartsheet API to count the number of "linksOutToCells" data on the source sheet.

    1. API can access cell link-out information in a sheet following this object structure.
    2. Sheet > Rows > a Row > Cells > a Cell > LinksOutToCells
    3. An Example of LinksOutToCells information (->Below)
    4. In this example, the source sheet has two links to cells from this particular cell.
    5. Count the number of total outbound links on the source sheet.
    6. The result shows that the source sheet has only 1000 links, despite 2000 working links.
    LinkOutToCells.png


    source sheet:https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=e176b317c5a34bdfb6ad0ac9229cec6c

    target sheet No.1:https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=971fb432503c4532967ee6c71f1e78b2

    target sheet No.3:https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=eeb541d5ff694b9fb3370257c16f0680

  • Has anyone been able to resolve this issue? I submitted a help request a couple weeks ago, and someone called me back a few days later, left a voicemail with no return number and crickets since then.

    This is really affecting our ability to work in Smartsheet because we keep having to toggle between a parent sheet and a dozen child sheets for various vendors and clients just to check if cells are linked/data is flowing.

  • Genevieve P.
    Genevieve P. Employee Admin
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    Hi all,

    (@Lauren_Lit_21,@jmyzk_cloudsmart_jp,@Paola,@LHanson11)

    Please see the recent announcement post around Outbound Cell Links:

    On August 7th, 2022 we reduced the number of outbound cell link indicators a user can see on a sheet from 100,000 to 1,000. <\/p>

    This change turned off the visual indicators (triangle in the bottom right corner of a cell). There is no functional impact to your sheets except for the removal of the visual indicator (triangle). The cell links still exist and changing the value in the cell will continue to propagate data to other sheets. <\/p>

    We made this change to improve the product performance. We are working on a solution to revert back to more than 1,000 outbound link indicators as soon as possible.<\/p>","bodyRaw":"[{\"insert\":\"On August 7th, 2022 we reduced the number of outbound cell link indicators a user can see on a sheet from 100,000 to 1,000. \\nThis change turned off the visual indicators (triangle in the bottom right corner of a cell). There is no functional impact to your sheets except for the removal of the visual indicator (triangle). The cell links still exist and changing the value in the cell will continue to propagate data to other sheets. \\nWe made this change to improve the product performance. We are working on a solution to revert back to more than 1,000 outbound link indicators as soon as possible.\\n\"}]","format":"rich","dateInserted":"2022-09-09T13:25:32+00:00","insertUser":{"userID":139926,"name":"Adam Lang","title":"","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/Adam%20Lang","photoUrl":"https:\/\/aws.smartsheet.com\/storageProxy\/image\/images\/u!1!XOdtH8J2BjM!7CFtu6J2S-M!8DXad3YjSVy","dateLastActive":"2023-07-05T18:15:59+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"Employee"},"displayOptions":{"showUserLabel":false,"showCompactUserInfo":true,"showDiscussionLink":true,"showPostLink":true,"showCategoryLink":false,"renderFullContent":false,"expandByDefault":false},"url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/95211\/update-on-outbound-cell-link-indicators","embedType":"quote","name":"Update on Outbound Cell Link Indicators"}"> https://community.smartsheet.com/discussion/95211/update-on-outbound-cell-link-indicators

    Thanks,

    Genevieve

  • jmyzk_cloudsmart_jp
    jmyzk_cloudsmart_jp ✭✭✭✭✭

    Regarding the issue of the Cell-Link-Out information cap of 1000, we tested today and found Smartsheet haschanged the cap to 2000.

    Update on Outbound Cell Link Indicators — Smartsheet Community

  • Adam Lang
    Adam Lang Employee

    Hey all -

    I wanted to provide a quick update on cell link indicators. The outbound indicators have increased from 2,000 to 40,000. You can use more than 40,000 links, but you will not see more than 40,000 indicators. A missing indicator does not mean your link is inactive. To check your links, verify the data at the destination.

    The product team continues to work hard to get the limit back to 100,000.

    For more information on cell linking please visit the help article below.

    https://help.smartsheet.com/learning-track/level-2-intermediate-users/cell-linking

    Thank you for your patience.

    Adam

Ok, I found it. Classic case of submit something for help, then find the answer. I think what may have happened previously, is that I turned on all the filters, but since there isn't one for a Deleted Row, maybe the Deleted Row was hidden. When I came back, I didn't click anything on the filters for the Activity Log and when scrolling through looking for the 'magic' delete word, I found the record I was looking for.<\/p>"}]}},"status":{"statusID":3,"name":"Accepted","state":"closed","recordType":"discussion","recordSubType":"question"},"bookmarked":false,"unread":false,"category":{"categoryID":321,"name":"Smartsheet Basics","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/smartsheet-basics%2B","allowedDiscussionTypes":[]},"reactions":[{"tagID":3,"urlcode":"Promote","name":"Promote","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":5,"count":0},{"tagID":5,"urlcode":"Insightful","name":"Insightful","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":11,"urlcode":"Up","name":"Vote Up","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":13,"urlcode":"Awesome","name":"Awesome","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0}],"tags":[{"tagID":447,"urlcode":"activity-log","name":"Activity Log"}]},{"discussionID":108801,"type":"question","name":"Adding users to our account if they are already licensed on another account","excerpt":"Hiya, Couldn't find an answer to my exact question, so hoping someone can help. I am working with an external client to my company, and need to add them to our account on paid licenses. 1) Can I add them to our account if they have a different email address to our company? 2) If they already have an existing licensed…","snippet":"Hiya, Couldn't find an answer to my exact question, so hoping someone can help. I am working with an external client to my company, and need to add them to our account on paid…","categoryID":321,"dateInserted":"2023-08-10T16:26:57+00:00","dateUpdated":null,"dateLastComment":"2023-08-10T17:22:07+00:00","insertUserID":128877,"insertUser":{"userID":128877,"name":"Holly Benjamin","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/Holly%20Benjamin","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-08-10T17:23:19+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭✭"},"updateUserID":null,"lastUserID":45516,"lastUser":{"userID":45516,"name":"Paul Newcome","title":"","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/Paul%20Newcome","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/userpics\/082\/nQPUTVFKKWDJ2.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-08-10T17:25:14+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭✭✭✭✭✭"},"pinned":false,"pinLocation":null,"closed":false,"sink":false,"countComments":1,"countViews":22,"score":null,"hot":3383373544,"url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108801\/adding-users-to-our-account-if-they-are-already-licensed-on-another-account","canonicalUrl":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108801\/adding-users-to-our-account-if-they-are-already-licensed-on-another-account","format":"Rich","tagIDs":[543],"lastPost":{"discussionID":108801,"commentID":390085,"name":"Re: Adding users to our account if they are already licensed on another account","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/comment\/390085#Comment_390085","dateInserted":"2023-08-10T17:22:07+00:00","insertUserID":45516,"insertUser":{"userID":45516,"name":"Paul Newcome","title":"","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/Paul%20Newcome","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/userpics\/082\/nQPUTVFKKWDJ2.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-08-10T17:25:14+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭✭✭✭✭✭"}},"breadcrumbs":[{"name":"Home","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/"},{"name":"Get Help","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/get-help"},{"name":"Smartsheet Basics","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/smartsheet-basics%2B"}],"groupID":null,"statusID":3,"attributes":{"question":{"status":"accepted","dateAccepted":"2023-08-10T17:23:30+00:00","dateAnswered":"2023-08-10T17:22:07+00:00","acceptedAnswers":[{"commentID":390085,"body":"

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@ocanel<\/a> <\/p>

Excellent, and yes, I am too! Thanks!<\/p>

I'd recommend using Dynamic View.<\/p>

Share it with your company domain.<\/p>

When the user accesses it, they would only see their own submissions.<\/p>

More info.<\/p>

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Would that work\/help?<\/p>

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