How to put in exact dates when tasks have predecessors linked
I have all my tasks linked to predecessors so that dates adjust correctly, but I am now unable to change the date to something farther down the line unless I unlink everything. Does anyone have an idea of how to fix that?
Thanks
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Genevieve P. Employee Admin
Hi@lbell
If you need to adjust a Start Date of a task while keeping it linked to its current Predecessor, there are two ways you can do this.
You can either adjust the End Date of the Predecessor (which would push out the Start Date of this next task) or you can addLagdays to the current task (creating a gap between when the Predecessor ends and this task begins).
E.g:
See the bottom paragraph of this article for information on Lag and Lead time:Work with Duration and Predecessors
Cheers,
Genevieve
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Ok, how about using a helper column with a 0 or 1 being input by your automation, and then use this as the trigger. So set the default on the column to 0, and if an attachment is there, leave it at 0. Then if an attachment is not there workflow will set it to 1, and that would trigger the automated workflow to run.<\/p>"}]}},"status":{"statusID":3,"name":"Accepted","state":"closed","recordType":"discussion","recordSubType":"question"},"bookmarked":false,"unread":false,"category":{"categoryID":321,"name":"Smartsheet Basics","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/smartsheet-basics%2B","allowedDiscussionTypes":[]},"reactions":[{"tagID":3,"urlcode":"Promote","name":"Promote","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":5,"count":0},{"tagID":5,"urlcode":"Insightful","name":"Insightful","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":11,"urlcode":"Up","name":"Vote Up","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":13,"urlcode":"Awesome","name":"Awesome","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0}],"tags":[{"tagID":334,"urlcode":"automations","name":"Automations"}]},{"discussionID":108286,"type":"question","name":"Configuring Predecessors in forward scheduling vs backward scheduling","excerpt":"I have a user who wants to schedule some projects in a forward-looking manner (top to bottom) and schedule other projects in a backward-looking manner (bottom to top). To explain to her how Predecessors would need to be configured in either scenario, I created the little example shown below. In the FORWARD section, the…","snippet":"I have a user who wants to schedule some projects in a forward-looking manner (top to bottom) and schedule other projects in a backward-looking manner (bottom to top). To explain…","categoryID":321,"dateInserted":"2023-07-29T00:11:14+00:00","dateUpdated":null,"dateLastComment":"2023-07-31T14:48:51+00:00","insertUserID":163593,"insertUser":{"userID":163593,"name":"George Speier","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/George%20Speier","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-07-31T22:00:20+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭"},"updateUserID":null,"lastUserID":163593,"lastUser":{"userID":163593,"name":"George Speier","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/George%20Speier","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-07-31T22:00:20+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭"},"pinned":false,"pinLocation":null,"closed":false,"sink":false,"countComments":2,"countViews":42,"score":null,"hot":3381405605,"url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108286\/configuring-predecessors-in-forward-scheduling-vs-backward-scheduling","canonicalUrl":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108286\/configuring-predecessors-in-forward-scheduling-vs-backward-scheduling","format":"Rich","lastPost":{"discussionID":108286,"commentID":388026,"name":"Re: Configuring Predecessors in forward scheduling vs backward scheduling","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/comment\/388026#Comment_388026","dateInserted":"2023-07-31T14:48:51+00:00","insertUserID":163593,"insertUser":{"userID":163593,"name":"George Speier","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/George%20Speier","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/defaultavatar\/nWRMFRX6I99I6.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-07-31T22:00:20+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭"}},"breadcrumbs":[{"name":"Home","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/"},{"name":"Get Help","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/get-help"},{"name":"Smartsheet Basics","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/smartsheet-basics%2B"}],"groupID":null,"statusID":3,"image":{"url":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/4M6FSYYJUAME\/predecessors2.png","urlSrcSet":{"10":"","300":"","800":"","1200":"","1600":""},"alt":"predecessors2.png"},"attributes":{"question":{"status":"accepted","dateAccepted":"2023-07-31T14:47:57+00:00","dateAnswered":"2023-07-29T20:17:17+00:00","acceptedAnswers":[{"commentID":387957,"body":"
This has to do with how a milestone is represented (ie. a 0 day duration). If you hard type milestone without a predecessor or successor, it will show up as the beginning of that day instead of the end of the day. If you have a milestone that is following a standard finish to start logic, it will show up at the end of the previous activity. <\/p>
So, Task B4 in the backwards version is actually saying that the completion happened in the 00:00 hr of that day. if you put any activity in that has a duration and uses the start to finish relationship, that activity will naturally finish at the end of the previous day. So, to get your example above to work, the finishing task would need to be 1 day long so it takes up the full work day. I found it easier to visualize if you zoom all the way in on the gantt chart so you can see the diamond symbol of the milestone at the beginning and end of the days when used in different set ups.<\/p>"}]}},"status":{"statusID":3,"name":"Accepted","state":"closed","recordType":"discussion","recordSubType":"question"},"bookmarked":false,"unread":false,"category":{"categoryID":321,"name":"Smartsheet Basics","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/smartsheet-basics%2B","allowedDiscussionTypes":[]},"reactions":[{"tagID":3,"urlcode":"Promote","name":"Promote","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":5,"count":0},{"tagID":5,"urlcode":"Insightful","name":"Insightful","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":11,"urlcode":"Up","name":"Vote Up","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":13,"urlcode":"Awesome","name":"Awesome","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0}],"tags":[]}],"initialPaging":{"nextURL":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/api\/v2\/discussions?page=2&categoryID=321&includeChildCategories=1&type%5B0%5D=Question&excludeHiddenCategories=1&sort=-hot&limit=3&expand%5B0%5D=all&expand%5B1%5D=-body&expand%5B2%5D=insertUser&expand%5B3%5D=lastUser&status=accepted","prevURL":null,"currentPage":1,"total":4898,"limit":3},"title":"Trending in Smartsheet Basics","subtitle":null,"description":null,"noCheckboxes":true,"containerOptions":[],"discussionOptions":[]}">