Dynamic View: Adding Field Logic
I have added the following Field Logic to have certain fields required on the form when another field is marked proposed. However, with the following logic applied, the form is still able to be saved w/out those fields being completed.. even though I indicated on the form the status is proposed. Is there a reason this is not working? I do not want a user to be able to save the form unless those fields are completed. *Note I can not mark them required initially, because they are only required when the entry is actually "Proposed". Can anyone assist?
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Genevieve P. Employee Admin
Field Logic in Dynamic View works differently than Conditional Logic in forms. In order for the field to recognize a new entry, the entry needs to be saved, submitting this value to the underlying sheet. Once that value is input to the cell/underlying sheet, the field logic can identify the value and apply logic to the View Panel.
What this means is that after the Status has been updated and saved,thenyou'll see the next two fields as required.
So, if someone had previously submitted the information on this row, and the status shows "Proposed", then when a user clicks on that row in Dynamic View then the logic in the Panel shows these fields as required. If, however, the user filling in the panel is the one who is switching the Status, the fields will only show once they hit the Save button and the new value has been entered to the sheet.
You may want to add helper text to your fields to identify this and ask your users to click "save" after each entry. Or if this is the initial intake of the row, you could set up a Form from the underlying sheet as the intake form instead of the Panel.
I hope this helps clarify how the Panel works!
Cheers,
Genevieve
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Mark Salamon ✭✭
请在动态改变字段的逻辑视图来学习h Conditional Login in forms. The way it works now does not make any sense. Field logic should be applied both when the form loads with any existing data as well as when the user changes the value in a drop down field.
The current approach also doesn't work well with other automation, which may be triggered based on a change to a status column. The assumption may be that when the status column changes other values will be updated as well, but there is no guarantee that will happen.
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Felicia Wilson ✭✭✭✭
I agree with Mark Salamon. The way the field logic in dynamic views works is not user friendly. Asking a user to save after each entry is a way to frustrate a user quickly. the way the conditional logic on the forms works is much better where the logic is applied as the user changes the value in the drop down field.
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Alan Rappa ✭✭✭
+1 for this enhancement = as I was looking for this very functionality.
I want to make a field required in Dynamic View if a user makes a specific selection.
if it only applies after they save their selection it defeats the purpose.
Thanks
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Jarrod Dorney ✭✭✭
+1 for this enhancement.
Great work guys... Smartsheet please find a way to improve the display panel in Dynamic View to better reflect how a form displays when using conditional formatting, its no good having conditional formatting requiring an additional field to be filled but the sheet saving halfway through the process. Thanks.
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Traci Summers ✭✭✭
+1 as well
I've been waiting for this functionality to be released for almost 2 years. Most of what we use Dynamic view would benefits for an immediate calculation so entries could be modified to fit guidelines we've set. I can build all the formulas and controls into the Smartsheet, but because I need Dynamic View to handle the security, I lose all that functionality.
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Erin Kim ✭✭✭✭
+1
any movement on this enhancement request? It would be very helpful!!
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any movement on this enhancement request? It would be very helpful!!
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Jason Hamman ✭✭
Coming here to +1 this request to make logic in Dynamic View work like Conditional Logic in forms AND see if there is any movement. It has been just over 2 years.
If the purpose of Dynamic View is to make working with data more interactive and intuitive, then it needs to behave as if it were live (like a form). On the back end, this would require live data connections vs the snapshot Dynamic View and Reports use of the Data Source.
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Genevieve P. Employee Admin
This is an older discussion that is not visible to the Product team.
The Community has a different area to vote up or +1 Product Idea requests, see theSmartsheet Product Feedback and Ideas topichere in the Community. I could not find a related Idea in this category - please feel free to create an Idea! This will allow other users to properlyvoteon your idea. The top-voted posts are reviewed each month.
Cheers,
Genevieve
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Jason Hamman ✭✭
Thanks for the heads up@Genevieve P.!
I submitted a new Idea for this issue.Please vote here!
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I'll answer what I can and shout out to @Brian_Richardson<\/a> for back up. <\/p>
#3 -I don't have any experience with Control Center, so sorry, I can't answer those questions<\/p>
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Kelly<\/p>"},{"commentID":373322,"body":"
Hey @Julie Fortney<\/a> !<\/p>
- In general you cannot update reports with bridge or the API, you can only get report information and details. So unless you are able to come up with a different solution you may be out of luck. Although, if this is a control center program, you may be able to use \"Dynamic Reports\" which adds new sheets to reports every time a project is provisioned (and removes as projects are archived). <\/li>
- Maybe using JavaScript in bridge would help, hard to say. <\/li>
- Unfortunately not.. You can not programmatically retrieve a form link (Big functionality gap in my opinion). We have begged Smartsheet to dynamically update forms with control center. Also you can not update the contents of widgets in dashboards with bridge or the api.<\/li>
- You could definitely set up a solution to achieve this. It would involve using a summary sheet in your blueprint where the link to your template sheets is profile data on your summary sheet. From there you can get the sheet id for each project in bridge, loop through them and make updates.<\/li><\/ol>"},{"commentID":373373,"body":"
@Kelly Moore<\/a> thanks for the shout out :-) but I'm not sure I can help more than what's already been posted. <\/p>
There's a fair amount of Smartsheet API methods that are prebuilt into Bridge, but not all of them. So if you're looking at the Bridge documentation for Smartsheet<\/a> integrations and not finding what you need, you can also look at the Smartsheet API documentation<\/a> to see if there's something there to help you out. If you find an API method to use that's not already pre-built as an integration, then you can use the Custom HTTP Call step to directly call the API. You just have to provide the Smartsheet API with an API token, which you can assign to yourself in your Personal Settings.<\/p>
- Because you cannot adjust report filters using the Smartsheet API, you cannot do this with Bridge. Here's the Reports methods<\/a>. You might want to consider a workaround for the process of having reports hand-updated with new job numbers. Perhaps leverage a creation date or flag new items with a checkbox that's cleared once the conditions are met that would cause the project to fall back off the report? You can also explore the \"contact has any of current user\" filter to pick up specific jobs for the viewer?<\/li>
- You could definitely use Bridge to read one sheet on a schedule or trigger, perform calculations using Javascript or the included utilities, and post the results. It may be faster and more stable than a huge number of formulas in Smartsheet, but I'm not 100% sure it would be. I would probably first explore using Data Mesh, which is setup to do this in a much more friendly way. If you don't already use Data Mesh, it's basically a batch index\/match tool. <\/li>
- As Samuel said, there's no API for updating widgets on a dashboard or retrieving a form URL. Also, I tested copying a dashboard and sheet in a common folder, where the form link was embedded in the dash, and unfortunately it does not update the form link. Seems like a gap and would be a good enhancement request. You could potentially work around this by having a common sheet with the form to capture entries, have a dropdown in that form for the project name that you can keep updated with Bridge, do a lookup to the sheet ID that the entry should go to on a sheet that Bridge maintains, and then copy the form responses into the individual project sheets using Bridge. I know that's pretty roundabout.<\/li>
- As Samuel and Kelly said, you can push dropdown updates through Bridge, it works better than Data Shuttle. You wouldn't need to maintain a separate lookup sheet though, if you create a report that contains the dropdown columns across your various created sheets, and then read that report with Bridge, the return from the API includes the source sheet ID and column ID for each report row. You can then leverage that to point Bridge at the right columns across your sheets without having to maintain a separate lookup.<\/li><\/ol>
At Iron Mountain we use Bridge for a variety of use cases, here's the most effective ones:<\/p>
- Dropdown updates. These happen instantly with Bridge, rather than waiting for Data Shuttle to do this on a schedule. We have a handful of dropdowns on different sheets that use Bridge. I'm also working on a workflow that reads three different lists from three different sheets, and combines them into a single dropdown.<\/li>
- Clear a sheet on a schedule, or as part of another Bridge workflow<\/li>
- Integrate with Smartsheet Resource Management: We use SRM to capture project assignments and do billing. Using Bridge I read assignment, project, and user data into Smartsheet sheets for monthly analysis, which triggers Smartsheet to run Pivots, Data Meshes, and put it all together into a dashboard. I also push new projects into RM when approved and provisioned by Control Center. (note - we do this with Bridge rather than with CC because CC links the project for task synchronization, which we're not doing). And we archive RM users when they are flagged by managers.<\/li>
- Integrate with ServiceNow: We run approvals and tracking for Procurement through Smartsheet, then push new catalog Requests into ServiceNow for the Finance team to complete their pieces. We then read back variable data to Smartsheet to track status of the procurement in one spot...Smartsheet.<\/li>
- Integrate with Gitlab: Project Managers identify epic IDs on task rows in the project schedules. Bridge then reads the dates and labels from Gitlab and posts the content into the project schedules on those rows to be used in formulas that drive the task status and dates. We also push project status commentary from Smartsheet to matching epics in Gitlab so that PMs don't have to enter status twice. <\/li>
- Batch read from Gitlab: Currently we export Gitlab data to a Google Sheet and then Data Shuttle it into Smartsheet. Which works ok but is prone to issues with multiple \"hops\" and getting out of sync with column names etc. Plan is to use Bridge instead to directly read the data from Gitlab and post to Smartsheet in one workflow. I'll use a \"control sheet\" that people can post into using a form and indicate which groups and projects they need data from Gitlab.<\/li><\/ul>
Hope that helps (a little). If you're trying to figure out whether you'll find Bridge useful, my best advice would be to decide how much integration you want to do. That's really what Bridge is for IMHO. You can<\/em> use Bridge to do more advanced workflows in Smartsheet but it can be a little tricky, often it's easier to leverage the prebuilt addons like Data Mesh and Data Shuttle in combination with automations to achieve what you're looking for. That said, Bridge is quite powerful and can certainly take your Smartsheet setup to the next level.<\/p>"}]}},"status":{"statusID":3,"name":"Accepted","state":"closed","recordType":"discussion","recordSubType":"question"},"bookmarked":false,"unread":false,"category":{"categoryID":343,"name":"Add Ons and Integrations","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/apps-and-integrations","allowedDiscussionTypes":["discussion","question"]},"reactions":[{"tagID":3,"urlcode":"Promote","name":"Promote","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":5,"count":0},{"tagID":5,"urlcode":"Insightful","name":"Insightful","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":11,"urlcode":"Up","name":"Vote Up","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0},{"tagID":13,"urlcode":"Awesome","name":"Awesome","class":"Positive","hasReacted":false,"reactionValue":1,"count":0}],"tags":[{"tagID":369,"urlcode":"bridge-by-smartsheet","name":"Bridge"}]},{"discussionID":108771,"type":"question","name":"Has Smartsheet improved the Workapps notification functionality?","excerpt":"While looking at a Smartsheet Workapp today, I noticed the text highlighted below. It says: \"Automation: You can create automated workflows in Smartsheet to alert people in your app. Learn more\" I was excited to see this because I don't use the Workapp tool since it lacks a way to A) notify users of notifications within…","snippet":"While looking at a Smartsheet Workapp today, I noticed the text highlighted below. It says: \"Automation: You can create automated workflows in Smartsheet to alert people in your…","categoryID":343,"dateInserted":"2023-08-10T01:25:46+00:00","dateUpdated":"2023-08-10T07:34:18+00:00","dateLastComment":"2023-08-10T13:12:38+00:00","insertUserID":13526,"insertUser":{"userID":13526,"name":"Marc Shecter","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/Marc%20Shecter","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/userpics\/7MDG7HO742ML\/nHOVUT0FAH0M1.jpg","dateLastActive":"2023-08-10T15:38:57+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"✭✭✭✭✭"},"updateUserID":91566,"lastUserID":91566,"lastUser":{"userID":91566,"name":"Genevieve P.","title":"Community Manager","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/Genevieve%20P.","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/userpics\/KHY4Y67W0VRX\/nF76D5N9MFB28.png","dateLastActive":"2023-08-14T08:07:34+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"Employee Admin"},"pinned":false,"pinLocation":null,"closed":false,"sink":false,"countComments":1,"countViews":33,"score":null,"hot":3383304504,"url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108771\/has-smartsheet-improved-the-workapps-notification-functionality","canonicalUrl":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/108771\/has-smartsheet-improved-the-workapps-notification-functionality","format":"Rich","tagIDs":[371,510,514],"lastPost":{"discussionID":108771,"commentID":389996,"name":"Re: Has Smartsheet improved the Workapps notification functionality?","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/discussion\/comment\/389996#Comment_389996","dateInserted":"2023-08-10T13:12:38+00:00","insertUserID":91566,"insertUser":{"userID":91566,"name":"Genevieve P.","title":"Community Manager","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/profile\/Genevieve%20P.","photoUrl":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/userpics\/KHY4Y67W0VRX\/nF76D5N9MFB28.png","dateLastActive":"2023-08-14T08:07:34+00:00","banned":0,"punished":0,"private":false,"label":"Employee Admin"}},"breadcrumbs":[{"name":"Home","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/"},{"name":"Get Help","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/get-help"},{"name":"Add Ons and Integrations","url":"https:\/\/community.smartsheet.com\/categories\/apps-and-integrations"}],"groupID":null,"statusID":3,"image":{"url":"https:\/\/us.v-cdn.net\/6031209\/uploads\/C4YA4UIUZFSF\/image.png","urlSrcSet":{"10":"","300":"","800":"","1200":"","1600":""},"alt":"image.png"},"attributes":{"question":{"status":"accepted","dateAccepted":"2023-08-10T15:39:24+00:00","dateAnswered":"2023-08-10T13:12:38+00:00","acceptedAnswers":[{"commentID":389996,"body":"
The prompt here is to help Workapp Builders use automations in the underlying Smartsheet sheet to send out notifications. There currently isn't a way to build an automation directly in the Workapp, as you noted. I see you created an Idea Post<\/a> around this, thank you!<\/p>